[Proposal] Gradually abandon mVIXY instead of continuous VIX future contract

Hi all,
the current mVIXY is a futures-based ETF, the fund must buy more expensive longer-dated VIX futures contracts while selling cheaper short-dated ones to roll its position, effectively buying high and selling low. Over time, this creates downward pressure on the ETF’s price, cause it has a poor correlation with the real VIX index, and long-term holders always lose money, it’s unreasonable to choose this as a mirrored underlying asset.

Instead, we should choose the VIX continuous future index (the ticker usually called VX.1!) as the underlying asset to track real S&P volatility.

The interesting thing is people can’t really buy this index in the traditional market for this index refers to the nearest expiration date VIX future contract, there is always rolling fees and position holding fees in CBOE futures market if anybody wanna keep up with the index, but in the synthetic asset world, we can creat an mVIX token to track the index, while people can always arbitrage when price mismatch between the index an mVIX, it’s better than track the VIX index itself for the index is not tradeable.

Also, it may attract those real large professional investors who desperately needs a low-cost way to hedge market volatility.

VIX ETF is one of the most ‘expensive’ financial product, we can also create many more mAssets which links to the continuous futures, like oil, gas, etc. basically all commodities, these mAssets don’t have rolling and holding and managing fees like commodity ETFs, will be better for investors to hold.

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Totally agree with this. As a holder I am continuously losing money.

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Are you proposing a perpetual VIX future contract? How is that suppose to work? Who pays the interest if it is indeed a perpetual contract?

hi :smiley:, I dont think there must be a funding rate mechanism like CEX’s perpetual contract, because just like normal mAssets don’t have a strong reward and punishment mechanism for users to balance the supply and demand of the mAsset, traders works more by consensus to eliminate price deviations.

Seems like a great idea!

vix was never supposed to be something that is held without purpose.

Without funding rate and arbitrage opportunity (with VIXY), there’s nothing that will bring the price of the futures to peg.

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Cool, I agree. It’s a good idea.

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